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  • So yesterday, after viewing Ozzy's page, i decided to go to the other Golden boy's (Joe) to add that Joe is remembered as a fierce competitor, because i didn't find it fitting that on Ozzy's page, it says that Ozzy is one of the greatest physical competitors ever, and it doesn't say that on Joe's page. Many people believe that Joe is the all-time challenge beast, so i decided to add it as a non-bias thing, considering Jeff Probst has stated that Joe is one of the most fierce competitors in the game. Why did you revert it? It is relevant to his game and it isn't really bias, considering he is statistically one of the best challenge beast ever. 

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    • Essentially what Ghoul said. Please note that we have a policy of neutrality on this wiki, so if your edit seems to be biased or uses wording that has a certain slant to it (as has been evident in several of your edits on the Joe Anglim page), then it goes against said policy and will inevitably be reverted.

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be implying that English isn't your first language. While we welcome users from around the globe to edit on the wiki, this is an English language wiki after all, so a certain degree of fluency is inherently required when editing here.

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    • English is my first language, i am just new to the wiki in terms of editing and i don't know the rules to editing a certain page. But i have another question. I am confused as to why Ozzy's page allows the wording of "one of the best physical competitors" on his page, but for Joe, i am unable to add it because it is apparently biased even though it is statistically true and many fans believe he is the best physical competitor. Just confused why for Ozzy it is allowed, but for Joe it isn't. Don't take it down on Ozzy's page though, i am just curious.

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  • Is there a specific reason on why some articles are empty under the Survivor section of the article explaining gameplay while others have it full? 

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    • This is because we just don't have the time to write the gameplay history of every castaway. While we would like for every castaway to eventually have their summaries filled out, we are also constrained by our real-life responsibilities.

      Of course, every user is encouraged to help edit articles, so long as these edits meet the guidelines set in our Manual of Style, as well as our general policies. You might notice that admins remove gameplay summaries from some castaway pages from time to time. This is because we, in our capacity as admins, must exercise discretion in ensuring that all edits meet the standard that we look for on this wiki.

      Anyway, welcome to Survivor Wiki! Feel free to contact me or any of my fellow admins if you have any further questions or clarifications. Happy editing! :)

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  • Hello,

    I apologize for any unintentional disruptive edits to that page. Can you please help me add more information about Jenna Morasca’s victory at the top of her profile? Also looking at when Aras slipped on Day 39, in the gallery I edited that it was his pinky not his toe because he had his shoes on.

    Thanks!

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    • Hi! Since you messaged me directly to inquire about this, I'd be glad to help. Here's some feedback from your last edit on the lede on the Jenna Morasca page:

      -You mentioned that she was "the youngest female contestant in The Amazon". We don't really note that in the lede unless that person is the oldest/youngest/first/whatever other extreme in the series (for example, Will Wahl was the youngest, while Rudy Boesch (in All-Stars) was the oldest). The fact that she was the youngest in her cast is already mentioned in the trivia section

      --Furthermore, why make the distinction "female contestant"? As mentioned, she was the youngest in her cast, period. Making a distinction between genders does not matter here.

      -Her pre-merge game is limited to one phrase and mostly glossed over in favor of her post-merge game. The lede in a castaway's article is supposed to summarize the entirety of their game. This is especially important when they're the winner and readers want to get a summary of their winning game before reading about it in detail in the body of the article.

      -You mentioned that she won two Immunity Challenges, but was targeted after Christy and Heidi. Some more exposition is needed since the first part doesn't seem to connect with the second part. Also, why is when she became a target relative to Christy's elimination important? Despite starting on the same original tribe, they were never really in the same alliance, unlike Jenna's relationship with Heidi.

      -Your use of the term "annihilated" seems a bit contentious and biased. Simpler language (such as "overcome") would be better used here. Also, why overlink to Butch, Rob, and Matthew's pages? It makes the entire lede look too convoluted when it should be concise. Simply stating that she managed to outlast the remaining members of the Tambaqui Alliance works better. When it comes to writing a lede for articles, simpler is better.

      -"Landslide victory" is another contentious and biased term since it is not defined by this wiki. How exactly is her 6-1 victory a "landslide victory" compared to, say, Ethan's 5-2 victory in Africa? Simply stating in some form that she won would be better.

      -No need to note that she was the sixth Sole Survivor in the lede. If you observe other winners' pages, we usually note that bit at the end of the body of the summary of their winning season/s.

      Hope this helps! We always appreciate enthusiasm from editors in contributing to the wiki, but we also have a role as admins to ensure that the content is neutral and professional. If you have any further questions, feel free to ask me or any of my fellow admins. :)

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  • Hello Sesefied,

    I am curious as to why you reverted my edit to the Misfit Alliance page. Thank you!

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    • It's superfluous (i.e., not really notable). Not every trivia point that can be added should be added. Please also note that repeatedly adding superfluous information is a blockable offense on this wiki.

      Furthermore, the division between the Muscle Alliance and the Misfit Alliance wasn't really about who was physically fit and who wasn't. Troyzan (and arguably Leif) was still physically fit despite his age and was a member of the Misfit Alliance. That division had to do more with who was perceived to be "cool" and who were "social outcasts".

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  • Could you please stop changing what i am putting in Joe Anglim's page.

    I am not a big fan of him. I am just adding the truth about him.

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    • Three admins have reverted your edits because it's highly biased and not how we write a lede. Edit wars are an offense that can result in a block, so consider this your final warning.

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    • sorry, i just thought that it should be there. i a not trying to be biased.

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    • Could you add something like that if i am going to get blocked if i do it again. I just don't understand why it's biased. I thought that it was the general view of him.

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    • Your intent is irrelevant. Please exercise discretion when editing. We have a policy of neutrality on this wiki, so anything that remotely comes across as biased is not allowed. And if an admin removes it, I would advise you not to get into an edit war. Especially considering now that three separate admins have reverted your edits, perhaps you should ask yourself what we've found wrong with it.

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  • I updated this info since in Winners at War both Rob and Parvati are now members of the jury and played in HvV. However, it was reverted back to this when it is no longer correct as of episode 8.

    • Cirie is the only contestant from Heroes vs. Villains to appear in a future season and be on the jury.

    I understand there is a strict word structure. I'm sorry if how I reworded it didn't fit the style as I'm new to this but I think that it should be changed. If not me by me then by someone who excels at writing in the Survivor Wiki format.

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    Hi,

    I don't know which admins are active to be honest, but out of these two, which should be the Guatemala cast photo?

    1st is the one currently on it and the second is the one I have of the cast.

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    • The second one doesn't have Stephenie and Bobby Jon, so that's an easy choice.

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    • What Distanceriez E. said. The second photo was taken before Stephenie and Bobby Jon were revealed to the cast on Day 1. The first photo was taken before the first Immunity Challenge on Day 3.

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  • Hey, can you check if I did the whole Australian Survivor cast pages right?

    I try uploading all the cast photos today, but on some of the pages on the bottom, there some error, and although I didn't touch the code I felt like maybe I did something after I added the photos.

    The same for the Kadina/Tipara tribe pages.



    Can you double check it for me?

    Thank you!

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    • I took a look at the pages you mentioned and made the necessary corrections. Thank you for the effort in finding and uploading these cast photos! :)

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    • An Outcast
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  • On the Hidden Immunity Idol page, it shows that Natalie owned the idol she sold to Sandra. Hence why I changed it to Tyson owning the nullifier first.

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    • On the Hidden Immunity Idol page, the person in that row is the finder. Idol finds have been credited in Survivor statistics for years, so it only makes sense to have the finder there. In other instances, the first person listed is the owner (such as in the Extra Vote page when Rick found it on the Edge of Extinction, but had to send it to Aubry; Aubry is listed there and Rick is noted in the table as having found it).

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    • I see. I was just trying to keep it in line with that page, and I didn't realize about the extra vote

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    • No problem! It's an easy mistake to make.

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  • Why is it only physical disabilities and not mental

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    • Bureaucrats made the call. Personally, I can empathize with considering mental disabilities in the category, but that would open up a whole new can of worms with determining who has a mental disability.

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