Talk:Redemption Island (twist)/@comment-108.28.167.27-20131116145720

Redemption Island is a terrible twist for the following reasons

1) It opens the door for bad players to win the game. It's bad enough that floaters and coattail riders can win, now people who are inept enough to get voted off can actually win!! Can anybody who is voted off really deserve to win? In fact, the fact that Matt could have won season 22 if he'd won a few more challenges still upsets me, the entire game took place with him on the sidelines.

2) It upsets the balance between the social, strategic, and physical games. It used to be that people relied mainly on alliances and trust to stay around, with challenges as a last resort. Now, the challenges dictate 100% of who stays and who goes, making the social and strategic dynamics largely irrelavent. Gutting the games most fundamental aspects feels wrong to me.

3) It makes getting to the end WAY too easy. It used to be that to get to the end, you had to survive lots of tribal councils, forge alliances, and earn people's trust. Those were difficult things to do, and as a result, the finalists really earned their spots in the finals. Now, you can get voted off multiple times and still get to the end. All you have to do is come in first or second in a three person duel. So in any duel, you have a 66% chance of staying in the game.

4) It punishes the players who were savvy enough to keep themselves in the game (by having their ghosts come back to haunt them) and it rewards the people who were stupid enough to get themselves voted out.

5) It takes power away from the players. With these duels between the people who were voted out, the players in the game have no say over who stays and who goes. If they vote off someone who's a huge threat, there's nothing they can do to stop that person getting back in the game. If you can't have any control over who stays and who goes, then you can't control your destiny or your position in the game. You just have to be lucky.

After all these points I've made, I cannot think of any case that can be argued for Redemption Island being a good twist.