Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-2142533-20141219081416/@comment-6987998-20141222200256

Zjzr wrote:

LincolnAloisio wrote: Coyopa Guys because it was an alliance formed by the men in Coyopa and they had a rival alliance (girls alliance), even if it wasn't relevant, while on Hunahpu it was only one alliance.

It is "Fab Five", they called themselves "Fab Five", Natalie was not just an affiliate, they discussed the plans with her. I'm sure Missy talked to Jon about working with her after the merge. After Jeremy's blidside they all agreed to stay together until the F5. And there's that thing of Jaclyn and Baylor sacrificing themselves so Missy, Jon and Natalie would be the F3. This part is I guess one thing that puts the "Natalie as part of the core" thing to be used, but at the same time, were they really going to agree about that? It was only Jon's side though and it was unaired, but if there are other sources that the whole alliance agreed to it, then I guess you have a point. From what I saw Jaclyn seems to not be happy about that plan (what if she wanted to be in that Final 3?), Missy seem to want a Baylor-Natalie F3, while Baylor's aired agenda is to be with Natalie also in that F3. Also they probably didn't talk about this move with Natalie -- I am pretty sure they left out Natalie because a game move that only benefits the four (they would think Natalie is the goat in their scenario as they would expect either lone pair to get those votes) won't be told to the fifth who could retaliate knowing she is just "used".

P.S. Could you site some episode quotes that said "Fab Five"? I personally can't see that Missy told Jon to work with Natalie that also excludes Jeremy. Jon and Jaclyn (at least on edit) didn't trust Missy enough during the supposed Jeremy blindside to get them involved with it and at least if we are talking about post-game interviews, it seems Missy only thought about voting out Jeremy after Jon brought the idea during that one confessional. About sticking to F5: you could still be technically an affiliate even if there is a pact that was done, but usually they end up in the bottom of the alliance and voted out next, or usually used as goats intstead. If they agreed or each one have other plans (if I'm not mistaken Missy talked about it in a interview) it doesn't matter. Which matter isthat they considered her as an effective part of the alliance, not someone who was there just to vote with them and it would be discarded later.

It was mentioned around episodes 12 and 13.

Missy had a strong relationship with Natalie at Hunahpu. Jon knew that. Natalie wanted to go to Exile with Baylor to show her loyalty to Missy. If Missy wanted to stick with Jon until endgame, of course she told Jon about working with (at least) natalie. She wouldn't want to be in an allaince of 4 in a tribe of 12.

"Jon and Jaclyn (at least on edit) didn't trust Missy enough during the supposed Jeremy blindside to get them involved with it"

This don't make sense, as the only person we saw Jon talking about it was Missy, and was then that he told her about his idol.