Board Thread:Virtual Tribal Council/@comment-1294345-20160922075848/@comment-6987998-20161216215347

NewGenGamer wrote: LincolnAloisio wrote: NewGenGamer wrote: LincolnAloisio wrote: "(...)but I actually told Ken about my mom. Ken is an incredibly genuine person and believes that the best people should get to the end. And I wanted him to know that there was no shame in going to the end with me. He was playing for his daughter and I was playing for my family as well. Dave was standing in the way of both of us winning. I had a final three deal with Ken and so did Dave, so he was going to have to break his deal with one of us. I wanted it to seem equal in terms of how bad it would feel to get rid of both of us." I don't see what's wrong with this at all.

Many people fail to address how important the social game of Survivor is. Adam and Ken bonded with each other, and you seem to underestimate how much these bonds matter in a game like this.

If Survivor wasn't also about the social game, then players like Russell Hantz would win every time. Speaking of which...

This may be a bit of an over-exageration, but Hannah, to me at least, felt like the Russell Hantz of this season. She had extreme paranoia, flipped on allies when it wasn't necessary, and overall, played the game in a way that alienated the jury.

If you can't convince the jury to vote for you, regardless of the circumstances, you don't deserve to win the game.

Also, you had said earlier that Hannah had flipped Ken over, and that Adam took credit for it, and yet your using this as an argument as to why Ken flipped on David. That is Adam admitting he used his mother as an strategy. Depends if you are okay with that or not.

The edit never showed Adam talking to Ken, so that's why I said Hannah had flipped Ken... I never denied that he used his mother that way, but what I am saying is that Adam would have won regardless.

You're admitting yourself that the edit skewed who convinced Ken to flip over, so it was probably the same with Hannah's editing for the finale.

The jury didn't see her flips as 'strategic control of the game like you did, rather they saw her as a rat who was too paranoid to stick to one side.

Once again, I think Adam would have won regardless, considering that all 10 jurors voted for him, and at most, the mom story gained him one or two votes. When it's that unanimous, you have to acknowledge that Hannah would have lost either way.

She failed to get the to jury vote for her, and by default, didn't deserve to win.

On an unrelated note, I feel that this discussion is somewhat disrespectful to Adam's mother, considering that she's now passed away Never said Hannah controlled the game (that was what the edit showed). Never said Adam won because of his mother (every one of the jurors said on their the jury speaks video they would vote for him).