Thread:Sinjoh/@comment-5002930-20190405195714/@comment-5002930-20190406194434

I never said that David should be credited with the idol. I said that whoever fulfills both essential requirements should be the one who gets credit for the idol. This is a situation we have never encountered before (because, again, comparisons to Lauren's and Donathan's idols end with the additional requirement not present for both of their idols taken into account).

Regarding the Caramoan idol, yes it was Erik who found it. I never once brought that up because it was so very clearly seen in the episode that he was the original owner, but immediately transferred ownership to Andrea. HOWEVER, there was no other requisite for gaining ownership of that particular idol other than actually finding it. As Erik was the one who found it, he could legally do whatever he wanted with it, including the immediate transfer of ownership to Andrea.

The issue with the EoE returnee's idol is that it was not immediately their idol upon receiving it. The idol came with the two conditions already stated above before ownership could be determined.

Put it this way:

Did Rick receive the idol halves? YES.

Was Rick allowed to immediately keep the idol for himself? NO, IT WAS SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.

Are these conditions essential to who gets to keep the idol? YES, WITHOUT FULFILLMENT OF THESE CONDITIONS, THE IDOL CANNOT BE CLAIMED BY ANY PARTICULAR PLAYER.

Have these conditions been met? YES AND NO. THE FIRST ONE HAS BEEN MET, THE SECOND ONE HAS NOT.

Therefore, does either Rick or David currently have an idol in their possession? NO, NEITHER HAS AN IDOL IN THEIR POSSESSION AT THE MOMENT. THEY MERELY HAVE IDOL HALVES, WHICH ARE POWERLESS WITHOUT THE OTHER.

How can they have the idol in their possession? BY LEGALLY OWNING BOTH HALVES WITHIN THE RULES OF THE GAME.

Ergo, neither one has a full idol yet, unlike Kelley and Lauren, who do have full idols because theirs came with no other requisite to be fulfilled other than merely finding the idol. It seems that you are overlooking the aspect of the requisites in this scenario, which is essential to the question of who gets the idol.